Today, I briefly look up on the net about Christianity and homosexuality. Now, I myself can't judge on whether I should reject homosexuality(not that I'm homosexual. I like girls, and I like it when they like me), as this is such a controversial issue and as I haven't properly encountered a homosexual yet.
Well, I knew that God condemns homosexuality in the Bible. Someone argued that while we should reject homosexuality, we shouldn't condemn homosexuals, as God loved everyone, including sinners. We have to pray for them and hope that they may reject homosexuality and return to God. That's one person's opinion.
Someone else said that homosexuality is a choice you make. Like choosing to take alcohol, smoking or drugs, it's something that you choose to take. Then are people homosexuals because homosexuality is addictive? Also, someone mentioned that you are not born gay, but you learn to be gay(like you learn smoking). I'm pretty confused on this issue - the defenders of homosexuality are claiming that homosexuals can't help being what they are, as it is their nature.
What am I supposed to think, what am I supposed to believe?
I'll have to meet one soon...
PS. I wonder what it would be like a homosexual who wants to believe in God...
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Believe what you want, but the correct answer is probably 'as people'. Related answers include 'What happens between consenting adults is none of my business'.
From a biological perspective, it's probably not a matter of choice. Animals do it too:
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Homosexual_behavior_in_animals
Hm.. but humans are not animals..
@J.Park: Even if we weren't, we'd still be created by the same supreme being, according to the bible.
Btw, this should answer all your questions...
Haha.. that was hilarious.
But doesn't the video consequently say that homosexuality in animals is absurd? Anyway, I looked at wikipedia and homosexuality in animals seems to be a solid proof.
But just because God created homosexual animals, does that mean that God created homosexual humans as well? I mean, God created birds and it's natural for them to fly, whereas God also created humans and it's unnatural for humans to fly.
Well, humans are technically animals. No matter how you spin it, we're multicellular heterotrophic eukaryotic organisms (with no cell walls). Unless we suddenly start photosynthesising or grow cell walls, we're still animals according to the biological definition.
(Isn't it prideful to assume that out of all the biological entities on this planet, we're the only ones to whom ordinary classifications don't apply and that we require some sort of pedestal for our oh-so-unique species?)
Prideful as it may sound, that's what the Bible says. In Genesis, God commanded humans to rule over every living creature. Also, God created human 'in his own image', so it could also be argued that humans are indeed 'unique'.
@J.Park: glad you liked it.
Let me first explain that I am pretty convinced that God did not create either humans or animals.
Let's then assume, for the sake of the argument, that you/your fellow christians/the bible is right.
Let's further assume that god has bestowed upon us the ability to think logically (seems plausible, since the whole known universe seems to operate on the same logical laws of nature), and that therefore we can try to assess the logic behind God's proceedings.
Note: If you can't accept this possibility, firmly believing that no man can possibly ever know the ways of the Lord, then please don't bother to read on, because then there is no common ground for an argument.
Okay, we assume/believe that god created homosexual animals for whatever reason. That in itself is no problem, because as having no free will, they are unable to sin.
He then went on and created humans, some of them apparently homosexual as well. If he just wanted to test these people's faith, why would he bother to create homosexual animals in the first place? If he actually created them to be homosexual, i.e. if they were born that way, so that there was no "choice" whatsoever involved, and then declared homosexuality a sin, punishable by death, why would he do that?
(hint: when did you consciously "choose" to like people of the opposite sex?)
Why would he create only a small portion of mankind with such an inordinate desire? Just for a change? Why didn't he mention pedophilia, a crime most (all?) people would agree is far more despicable than sodomy?
My point is: I must admit that there are situations in which people "choose" to become homosexual (e.g. prison). After all, libido is one of the strongest impulses people tend to act on. (another hint: people tend to follow their instincts quite often, which is the reason why moral and ethics--whether from god or not--are needed to enable social co-existance)
Most people return to their heterosexual orientation as soon as people of the opposite sex are accessible.
But the vast majority of homosexuals just "know" that they are into a same-sex relationship just the same way you know that you want someone of the opposite sex to form a relationship.
Either way, there is no reason to attack, ignore, punish, hate, or reject someone on his or her sexual orientation. All humans are equal, no matter whether they were created or simply evolved. That includes, but is not necessarily limited to, coloured people, Jews, Muslims, women, native Americans and all other minorities that at some point in time were denied equal rights on the assumption that they were less human than the dominant group.
If you really want to believe that god hates homosexuals, well, do so. But keep one thing in mind:
Judge not, lest ye be judged.
If they had a choice (which I firmly don't believe), then they have made it for a reason.
In my world I couldn't care less what two consenting grown-ups do in their bedroom. In your world, I would suggest you let God do the judging. It's the most sensible thing you can do, I guess...
After all, isn't God supposed to be Love?!
Although I was not supposed to read on, I did :)
If I may comment on what you said, probably God didn't create humans and animals to be homosexual, but they became homosexual because of Adam ate the apple(the there's the original sin - I'm sure you know about it)
If you want to know why God put the Tree there, ask him :)
To me, your line of argumentation simply does not work out. Not because I am an atheist, but because it does make no sense at all.
The concept of original sin is dubious, to say the least. At least nothing I personally would expect from an omnibenevolent supreme being. But that's just me.
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